10 Signs Google PageRank is Dead…to Non-Googlers

  • January 28th 2015
  • by Marvin Russell
10 Signs Google PageRank is Dead…to Non-Googlers

I keep seeing the same question posted over and over, “Is Google PageRank Dead?” My thoughts are yes and no. Yes, it’s dead to those outside of Google. No, it’s not dead to Googlers (people who work at Google). In other words, I still think Google uses PageRank as a part of their organic ranking algorithm. I just don’t think they will push PageRank out to the public anymore.

I did a little research and came up with 10 signs, from which we can safely assume Google PageRank is dead to non-Googlers. While researching this topic, one thing I noticed killing off Google PageRank for non-Googlers has been in the works for a while. For years Google has been throwing us hints, and slowly removing PageRank data from our grasps, until one day it was gone.

1. PageRank data removed from Webmaster Tools.

In 2009, Google removed PageRank data from Webmaster tools.  I know this happened nearly 5 years ago, but now we know it was a sign of what was yet to come. Maybe this will help us predict Google’s future a little better. After all, the best way to predict the future is to know the past. This was their explanation as to why they removed PageRank from Webmaster Tools:

We’ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn’t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it’s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it.

Susan Moskwa, Googler

2. Less updates over time.

Checkout this graph I whipped up. It shows the number of times Google updated PageRank for non-Googlers, since 2006. As you can see, Google has consistently released fewer PageRank updates over time.

Is PageRank Dead?

3. PageRank never was added to Chrome.

Thinking back, Google never did add a PageRank to their own browser, Chrome. In fact, the only way to see PageRank on Chrome is if you install an extension by a 3rd party developer. If it had a future you’d think they’d promote Google PageRank on their own browser. But they never have.

4. Matt Cutts says he’d be surprised if PageRank was updated again.

On October 6, 2013 Niels Bosch tweeted a question to Matt Cutts, Head of Search Spam, asking if we should expect a PageRank update before 2014. Matt Cutts responded by saying, I would be surprised if that happened.

Previous to Matt Cutts’ response Google only updated PageRank once that year, on February 4, 2013.

5. PageRank was not updated for 10 straight months.

In 2013, Google didn’t update PageRank for 10 straight months. With respect to previous years, that was a pretty long drought. As I stated earlier, PageRank was updated on February 4th, and it was not updated again until December 6, 2013. Historically Google has updated PageRank three to four times per year. A 10 month delay was a sure sign that something was changing.

6. Matt Cutts says the PageRank “pipeline” is broke, and Google isn’t interested in fixing it.

On October 23, 2013, at Pubcon Matt Cutts stated that the PageRank “pipeline” is broke, and Google isn’t interested in fixing it. The pipeline is what Google used to send updated PageRank data to toolbars, for non-Googlers to see. Even though Google may update PageRank internally everyday, it only pushed data updates to non-Googlers, via toolbars, three to four times per year.

7. Matt Cutts says PageRank data is only updated to help searchers.

Matt Cutts, once said, “the reason why they (Google) still have it (PageRank) is not because SEOs use it but rather because searchers and users still use it to determine how “reputable” a website is.

Strong words. He sounds a bit reluctant to still address Google PageRank. It also sounds like he wished they would have stopped updating Google PageRank data much  sooner.

8. Googler John Mueller says Google will never update PageRank again on 1/22/14.

I wouldn’t use PageRank or links as a metric. We’ve last updated PageRank more than a year ago (as far as I recall) and have no plans to do further updates. Think about what you want users to do on your site, and consider an appropriate metric for that.

John Mueller, Googler

Well, John hasn’t been fired yet, so…

(See for yourself at minute 20:30)

9. PageRank has not been updated in 14 months (as of 1/28/15).

As we just stated, PageRank is normally updated a few times per year. However, the last update was well over a year ago, on December 6, 2013. This gives a strong indication that updates have stopped.

10. PageRank became leverage for spammers, and Google knows it.

If you’re an SEO pro you’ll understand this. How many times were you contacted by people offering PR4, PR5, or PR6 links? I got it every day. That was a spammer’s angle. Spammers sold links from web pages with high PR. The higher the PageRank, the more expensive.

I once had a colleague ask if we should entertain buying links from this company who had a great deal on PR5, PR7, blah, blah, blah links. Before I turned this horrible idea down we looked at the pages the spammer promised us links from. I was initially impressed with the high PageRanks. Then I searched the URLs in Google. Nothing Found! Those pages, with high PageRanks, were banned from Google, and still had awesome PageRank. WTF?

This exact problem was discussed in the video above, and that’s when Mueller’s now famous words, reassured us that we should not worry about PageRank anymore, and that Google would likely never update PageRank again. If PageRank was important, you’d think they would have solved this tiny and trivial task. Give banned pages a PR of 0. I’m not a developer but it seems simple enough.

Google created monsters when they created PageRank. They didn’t mean to, it just happened. Selling links with high PageRank became a cornerstone of link spam. In fact, Matt Cutts, Head of Google Spam, is tasked with mitigating spam on Google as much as possible. Half of his department was probably dedicated to the spammy repercussions of PageRank. Therefore, it was only natural that he lead this charge.

Conclusion

Google PageRank is not dead to Googlers, but it is dead to us.  In all, I’m glad. Less spammy emails, fewer cheaters, and less confusion from the name “PageRank”. Fellow SEO professionals know what I mean by “confusion”. We have to constantly explain to clients the difference between PageRank, and your page’s ranking in search engines. It just got annoying. But it is ironic. Larry’s last name is “Page”, hence the term “PageRank”. I really hope you knew that.

If you still need some sense of how well you are doing in search engines, get your OMS Score from OptimizeMySite. Your score will tell you how optimized your pages are for search engines.

  • http://www.maximumlocal.com Steve Sager

    Please do not buy and SEO package or product promoted on the basis of PageRank.

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      I agree. You should never do that.

  • ozneilau

    Thanks Marvin, I have been paying more attention to Moz Page Authority and Domain Authority as indicators of web page and website authority. I assume these metrics are still alive and well?

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      Yes they are :) We just released OMS Score. You should check out http://OptimizeMySite.com

      • ozneilau

        Excellent, thanks! This is very useful to gauge how well search engine optimised a website is already and what improvements are still needed.

        • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

          You are very welcome. More specifically it’s about landing page optimization. Enjoy :)

  • http://bit.ly/clickbankprofit11 beyond11

    PA & DA, trust flow, citation flow, MOZ rank are more important metrics in 2015’s SEO efforts http://www.pinterest.com/beyond11/seo-tud%C3%A1s-seo-inf%C3%B3grafika/

    • Pawel Gontarek

      NO, they’re useless … Ii is very easy to make these factors “big” using ALN (Automatic Link Network)

      • http://www.clippingpathindia.com/clipping-path.html Bijutoha

        What do you mean Pawel Gontarek…..??

  • alexleca

    It doesn’t matter what will happen to Google PageRank since
    we have software engines to calculate in real time Google Page Rank on the
    original Google algorithm. Here it is one:

    http://www.webuka.com

    Give it a try!

    • http://www.propertind.com/ Anand Ravindran

      Thank you alexleca :)

  • http://www.bireports.co.uk B.I. Reports

    Insightful article, thanks for sharing

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      You are welcome!

  • http://www.calipus.com Sandeep Kumar

    Best part is that spammers aka self claimed SEO gurus, would not be able to sell links just on the basis of Page Rank and experienced folks will now have better opportunities in the market.

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      I agree ;)

  • seyi obahiagbon

    So how come the top searches for highly competitive keywords still go to the top pagerankers (pr 4 to 10)

    A PR 0 page still gives you some good traffic if it comes from a high PR domain.

    I am addicted to a particular forum because of this. Anything i put there
    is sure to get good visibility if i update my thread regularly enough!

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      PageRank still works. it’s just not updated tot he public anymore. My guess is that it will become more and more meaningless each day, because as new sites grow and become more popular, they will never see an increase in PageRank.

      • William Kiel

        I think you’re right. I just read a piece where the blog looks at Matt Cutts stats and there are a bunch of cross dynamic ratings on his site that do not line up at all.

        Matt Cutts PR5 might be accurate to the last update done the public can still see, or it might be a PR6 if they still were. Don’t know but it is definitely not lining up with the DA81. He would normally be, if it were the olden days either a PR6 or a PR5 very close to a PR6.

        I doubt negative SEO attacks would work against Matt and if anyone is white listed or not having to use the disavow it would be him.

        But MOZ DA will have the same effect ultimately that PR did and cause people to try to get listed off those. I am getting this heavily already with the ads saying we will get you on high DA, versus high PR.

        Well, the DA is not so accurate either, when it factors in age, size, popularity and doesn’t factor in negative popularity stats. Matts Cutts blog again is a DA81 because its a 12 year old domain, with 500,000 page views a month.

        What MOZ does not seem to see in this though that of those 500,000 pageviews a month Matt Cutts has, he also has a 80 percent bounce rate and 55 second on site read time which are in the horrible range.

        Probably because Matt frequently writes completely outside the niche that makes his popularity. They don’t come to read Matt Cutts and what he had for breakfast, how many walks he takes, or what Halloween costume he made for.

        People come for made him on that topic, all those referring domains and back links he has. His name is not Matt Cutts that can write anything and get read. It is Matt Cutts Google. If there is nothing new and relevant, or at least relevant on his blog that has not already been read to death, it is bounce and run like hell.

        People should quit worrying so much about PR, DA, and just write the content that is their niche if they have one defined at all, that will either make them popular over time or it won’t. Even Matt is a perfect example of, if its not relevant, those numbers like PR and DA are an indicator and for now maybe a good indicator of ability to search engine rank, but they don’t what happens beyond this.

        http://bloghitter.com/matt-cutts-google-blog-review/

  • http://www.quickseoresults.com/ Eve Haugen

    Very useful information you’ve shared to us. Thank you for your Effort.
    Keep it up.

  • http://www.ForeverMetals.com Christine

    Very useful, however I would like to see a 2015 page rank update. Other services have not perfected the scoring yet.

  • http://www.ion-eight.com Brandon JE

    Well done Marvin, quite informative article and you jot down good points which one should assume when coming to conclusion that Google Page Rank is dead. So, the reliable metrics to know the worth of any website will be Majestic’s Trust Flow and Moz’s Domain and Page Authority, Alexa Rank, ahrefs for backlinks, analytics. But, the problem is why Google do this? It offers something to the developers or SEO people and when we are use to with that stuff, Google take it back – being that as Page Rank, Keyword Data, Google +1s and so on.

  • Priscilla Prisms

    Thank goodness one less hoop to jump through.

  • http://www.topwalkingshoesformen.com Paul Hùng

    Thank you, this post is analyticsed clearly. And this post is very useful for whom to know about pagerank. My site http://topwalkingshoesformen.com has PR=0 :)

  • http://www.hdpixels.net/ HDpixels

    Exactly since 2013 google not updated page rank some of good sites like http://blogrope.com/ have 0 page ranking.

  • ajay

    Page rank not update recently but now page rank affect or not for our search engine ranking. My site http://packersmoversworld.in and PR is 0

  • Nivid

    How about link building. Is it necessary to check page rank of incoming link in this era.?

    bcz we are doing some backbuilding & most of the sites PR range from 4-8. Don’t know what would be the PR if Google updating the PR in coming years. Is this will hurt my site? currently http://www.nividtechindia.com has PR0.

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  • http://www.rangoutlet.com Hemant Khatri

    I have 9months old site called http://www.rangoutlet.com. I never show any google page rank to this site. if there is no page rank then how to check the score or rank on google? whats alternative?

  • http://freelancer-coder.com/ ajaniashish

    Excellent article. After going through this article I think I should not worry about page rank now. I’ve my portfolio site http://freelancer-coder.com having many pages including blogs, services and portfolio. But still page rank is 0 but no problem, at least the strategy of not updating page rank will stop buying and selling SEO packages.

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  • http://www.srbijaoglasi.com/ Fragola Team

    Page rank it was a old good times as more updates more sofiticated internet becomes i have more headakes.

    http://onlinecvecara.com/

  • http://jnmkk.blogspot.com Asim

    if google don’t want to update the page rank then pr must be remove from all sites in order to provide equality, for those who started blogging after dec 2013. my site has pr n/a and it is established after 2013.
    http://www.bloglearns.com

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  • Leland Best

    I’ve always been a site builder that never really gave a junk about Page Rank. Guess I was doing o.k. all along not to do so!

    Great article, I’ll be sure to pass this around to all of my fellow marketers, associates and website builders (including Market Samurai folks) in an attempt to bury it (PR) for good!

  • http://www.securitycamera-ny.com Mark

    so pagerank totally dead? why some toolbar still showing pagerank?

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      Those are outdated :)

  • Lynn Serafinn

    Very interested int read this information, @russellbmw:disqus . I was wondering why I hadn’t seen my site move up from its PR3 in more than a year, even though I know my backlinks have increased significantly. I SO agree with you that Google should simply deal with blacklisted sites with a PR0 (or N/A). I also think PR was (at least notionally) a useful tool for content writers seeking to increase their profile via writing for high-ranking third-party sites. I have also used it as an analytic benchmark when working with my clients.

    Oddly, even though PR is dead, I still get loads of comments spam, albeit not so many emails trying to sell backlinks. I actually wish Google would revamp PR and bring it back, if they could keep those obnoxious spammers out of the mix.

    Lynn Serafinn
    http://the7gracesofmarketing.com

  • Mike Donovan

    It appears Google removed the page rank extension app as I had it installed. Noticing it was gone, I went to reinstall because I still like to see the last recorded PR of competitors and even many of my own sites online. But upon installation, it came up with a message that it was already installed (ugh!). So I went to research some more and found this page. Apparently Google removed the ability for Chrome to even be installed even when you still want it. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong about this but I couldn’t get it to work.

    • http://mysiteauditor.com/ Marvin Russell

      You are correct.

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    can anyone help me in increasing the visitors for my website http://www.propertyind.com

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  • 123 Internet Group – SEO Milto

    Our clients page rank has always been strong. Our website http://www.123internetdesigns.com has always had a PR of 3/10.

  • Karoly

    Thank you for the tipps Marvin.
    Now i try some of them thank you
    Best regards
    Karoly
    http://ecotuning.hu

  • عدنان ایوب

    Nice details to pagerank effecting web society.